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- From: storm@ar.ar.com.au (Storm)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: Demo/game to OS frien
- Date: 25 Jan 1996 09:41:07 +1100
- Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here.
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- Michael van Elst (mlelstv@serpens.rhein.de) wrote:
-
- : Well, maybe your logic is weaker... but it is clear that without the OS
- : there is
-
- : no HD access.
- : no support for systems with graphics cards.
- : no multitasking.
- : no return to the OS besides rebooting.
-
- : Any other claim is _definitely_ wrong.
-
- : >: That's what I'm saying. C00l C0d3rz produce BAD CODE.
- : >Nonsense. You have no basis for such a sweeping generalisation.
-
- : Oh, then it is good code to crash the machine ?
-
- Crashing the machine is shit code. Everyone agrees on that, c0d3rz
- and OSlamic fundamentalists. If your machine crashes, there is a bug
- in the code, it's as simple as that. I can't recall anyone ever
- claiming it was otherwise. The closest you'll get to such a claim is
- that if someone codes something, for fun, and you obtain and run it,
- totally free of charge, then you have no real right to complain if it
- doesn't do anything except crash. But the truth is that I, and all
- other demo c0d3rz, HATE crashes, agonise over them.. they are the
- bane of our existence even more than yours!
-
- : I have more than just a "basis" for such a generalisation. In fact,
- : it isn't really a generalisation because close to all products
- : from our beloved c00l c0d3rz do not satisfy even one of my
- : requirements. And from statements given in this group I believe
- : this is done intentionally.
-
- Close to all products do not satisfy even one of your requirements!?
- You obviously haven't been looking at any products in the last couple
- of years. (maybe you're afraid of catching c0d3r-germs?)
-
- Almost all AGA demos return to the OS without rebooting. More and more
- are coming as lots of little files which are loaded from, you guessed
- it, the HD, during the running of the demo. No multitasking, I'll pay
- that one, although I have seen some diskmags and things coded by c0d3rz
- which do multitask.
-
- The only claim of yours where you really are right is the no graphics
- card support, and that IS done intentionally - most c0d3erz code for
- the Amiga. An A1200 is an Amiga. So is an A4000. But how about my A3000
- with Retina? Demos & games don't run on it, but that's OK with me, 'cos
- it's not an Amiga - it's an 030 based computer running AmigaDOS, but
- it's not an Amiga.
-
- You don't seem to accept that there are people who wish to program
- Amigas, not AmigaDOS. Telling me that I must not hit the hardware and
- must use the OS for my hobby programming - you might as well tell me
- that I must not use C or Assembly but must instead use COBOL - you'll
- get the same reaction from me.
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